{"id":25626,"date":"2025-11-26T10:22:56","date_gmt":"2025-11-26T02:22:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cantor.math.ntnu.edu.tw\/?p=25626"},"modified":"2025-11-26T10:28:01","modified_gmt":"2025-11-26T02:28:01","slug":"colloquium1217","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cantor.math.ntnu.edu.tw\/index.php\/en\/2025\/11\/26\/colloquium1217\/","title":{"rendered":"<span style=\"color:#3566BD\">[Colloquium] <\/span>\u3010Dec 17\u3011Daniel Spector \/ The Calculus of Variations according to AI by prompts and refinements"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"25626\" class=\"elementor elementor-25626\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-302efd47 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"302efd47\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-background-overlay\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-746990ed\" data-id=\"746990ed\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-90d4d3f elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"90d4d3f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">The Calculus of Variations according to AI by prompts and refinements<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3a5b531b elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"3a5b531b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-65f8f53a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"65f8f53a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000080; font-family: \u5fae\u8edf\u6b63\u9ed1\u9ad4; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;\">Time:<\/span><span style=\"color: #000080; font-family: \u5fae\u8edf\u6b63\u9ed1\u9ad4; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;\"> Dec. 17<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #000080; font-family: \u5fae\u8edf\u6b63\u9ed1\u9ad4; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: bold;\"> (Wed.) 14:20-15:10<br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: #000080; font-family: \u5fae\u8edf\u6b63\u9ed1\u9ad4; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: bold;\">Venue: M212, Gongguan Campus, NTNU<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2b559b26 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"2b559b26\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"283\" height=\"399\" src=\"https:\/\/cantor.math.ntnu.edu.tw\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/1141217\u53f8\u9748\u5f97.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-25628\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cantor.math.ntnu.edu.tw\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/1141217\u53f8\u9748\u5f97.jpg 283w, https:\/\/cantor.math.ntnu.edu.tw\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/1141217\u53f8\u9748\u5f97-213x300.jpg 213w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 283px) 100vw, 283px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d4de8a1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d4de8a1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div style=\"list-style: none; 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font-variant-caps: normal; margin-top: 10px; font-size: 22px; line-height: 26px; text-align: center; color: #cc6633; font-weight: bold;\"><div style=\"list-style: none; font-family: \u5fae\u8edf\u6b63\u9ed1\u9ad4; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; margin-top: 10px; font-size: 22px; line-height: 26px; text-align: center; color: #cc6633; font-weight: bold;\"><div style=\"list-style: none; font-family: \u5fae\u8edf\u6b63\u9ed1\u9ad4; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; margin-top: 10px; font-size: 22px; line-height: 26px; text-align: center; color: #cc6633; font-weight: bold;\"><div style=\"list-style: none; font-family: \u5fae\u8edf\u6b63\u9ed1\u9ad4; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; margin-top: 10px; font-size: 22px; line-height: 26px; text-align: center; color: #cc6633; font-weight: bold;\"><p>Prof. Daniel Spector<br \/>\u53f8\u9748\u5f97\u6559\u6388<\/p><p><span style=\"color: #ab7326;\">Department of Mathematics, NTNU<br \/><\/span><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4ebff61a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4ebff61a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The slides for this talk were generated using Gamma by the prompt &#8220;I want a presentation about the history of the calculus of variations that includes the story of Dido, the contributions of the Bernoullis and Newton, of Euler, Lagrange, Riemann, Weierstrass, Hilbert, Noether, and the direct method of Tonelli. I want details about the need for function spaces for the trace in regard to Hilbert&#8217;s mistake, about the additional Euler-Lagrange equations found by Noether, and about Tonelli&#8217;s direct method.&#8221; Further refinements were then made by prompting Gamma to modify slides. In this talk we use these slides and prompts as a basis for a parallel discussion about the important points of the Calculus of Variations and AI&#8217;s ability to understand relevance. A full list of refinement prompts is presented at the end.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">More Information: <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"https:\/\/web.ntnu.edu.tw\/~spectda\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/web.ntnu.edu.tw\/~spectda\/<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3ffe5bf1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"3ffe5bf1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-306f8c34 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"306f8c34\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" 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